为了进一步了解和关心国际留学生在校学习和生活情况、增进对留学生所在的国家文化的认识、培养学生国际视野、促进文化交流和文明沟通，国际学院针对留学生推出了教育开放推广季“跨文化视野”之“和山面对面”系列访谈节目。3月22日下午来自中国语言文化学院汉语国际教育专业的郑煜滟同学对罗晓清进行了访谈。
罗晓清，来自秘鲁，2024级汉语语言文化专业的学生。
Sisrley Kristel suyon loo，from Peru，who is studying Chinese language and culture now.
Q1：你有什么推荐的秘鲁美食吗？
罗晓清：大地锅（Pachamanca）——这是先在地上挖一个坑，然后铺上卵石用火烤热，再把卵石当锅，在石头上放置肉类、土豆、玉米等食材，加入一些天然香料，铺上树叶，再盖上一层厚厚的布，最后用泥土把坑覆盖起来，等待两三个小时。这个制作过程非常繁琐，通常都是当一家人都在的情况才会一起制作并享用；烤鸡(Pollo a la Brasa)——这个烤鸡的特别之处就是调料，会使用秘鲁的植物香料，这是这道菜的灵魂；烤豚鼠（Cuy）——我知道中国有人会饲养豚鼠当作宠物，我们不仅仅饲养它还会吃它，非常美味；秘鲁生腌（Ceviche）——口感吃起来像寿司，上面还会放柠檬。
Q1: Do you have any Peruvian food recommendations?
Sisrley Kristel suyon loo: Pachamanca – This is to dig a pit in the ground, then spread pebbles and roast them over a fire, then use the pebbles as a pot, place meat, potatoes, corn and other ingredients on the stones, add some natural spices, spread leaves, cover with a thick cloth, and finally cover the pit with soil and wait for two or three hours. It's a tedious process that is usually made and eaten together when the whole family is there, Pollo a la Brasa (Grilled Chicken) – the spice of this chicken is the seasoning, Peruvian botanicals are the soul of the dish, Cuy (I know there are people in China who keep guinea pigs as pets, we don't just raise them but eat them, it's delicious), and Peruvian Raw Pickles (Ceviche) – it tastes like sushi with lemon on top.
Q2：你为什么想学中文？
罗晓清：我的外公是中国人，因为二战的原因来到秘鲁，然后在秘鲁的唐人街上开了一家中国餐馆和我外婆认识并相爱了。在我五六岁时，每当外公外婆吵架的时候，外公都会在一个本子上画来画去，我小时候一直以为那是外公生气了在画画，结果他告诉我他是在写汉字。然后我就对中文产生了浓厚兴趣，缠着外公教我中文。他以为我只是一时兴起就没在意，就只是教了我非常简单的汉字“上”“下”等词语，并答应我等我长大了再教我，没想到我是真的喜欢中文，在15岁时我又提出了让外公教我中文的想法，这一次他还是拒绝了，因为他是广东人，所以他只会粤语并不会普通话，于是我就进入了天主教大学孔子学院学习中文。我的外公在十年前去世了，他的十五个外孙和外孙女中，只有我，会讲中文、学习中文，我想继续学习中文。还有就是我在八岁时接触了邓丽君的歌曲，我们叫它Condor Pasa，我对她的歌非常感兴趣，后来才知道原来叫“甜蜜蜜”和“月亮代表我的心”。
Q2: Why do you want to learn Chinese?
Sisrley Kristel suyon loo: My grandfather is Chinese, came to Peru because of World War II, and then opened a Chinese restaurant in Peru's Chinatown and met and fell in love with my grandmother. When I was five or six years old, whenever my grandparents had a fight, my grandfather would draw in a notebook, and when I was a child, I always thought it was my grandfather who was angry and drawing, but he told me that he was writing Chinese characters. Then I became interested in Chinese and pestered my grandfather to teach me Chinese. He thought I didn't care about it on a whim, he just taught me very simple Chinese characters such as "Shang" and "Xia", and promised me to teach me when I grew up, but I didn't expect that I really liked Chinese, and at the age of 15, I put forward the idea of letting my grandfather teach me Chinese, this time he still refused, because he is Cantonese, so he can only speak Cantonese and not Mandarin, so I entered the Confucius Institute of the Catholic University to study Chinese. My grandfather passed away ten years ago, and I am the only one of his fifteen grandchildren and granddaughters who can speak Chinese and study Chinese, and I want to continue to study Chinese.And in China there has a song by Teresa Teng that I have called Condor Pasa, when I learned about her music it was also at the age of 8 and it also aroused interest in me, then I managed to learn it with Exactly, the songs I know are Tian Mimi, the moon represents my heart.
Q3： 如果我想来秘鲁旅游，你推荐我去哪儿？
罗晓清：我们秘鲁全境主要分为三个景观——沙漠、热带雨林、海边。如果是海边的话，我推荐去利马。然后我们每个地区都会跳不同的舞——如果是雨林地方的话，会跳Kuska；如果是雨林和海边混合的地方，会跳Cumbia、Salasa。每个不同地方都跳不一样的舞，孩子们从小就要学。
Q3: If I want to travel to Peru, where do you recommend me to go?
Sisrley Kristel suyon loo: The whole territory of Peru is mainly divided into three landscapes - desert, tropical rainforest, and seaside. If it's by the sea, I recommend going to Lima. Then we dance differently in each region – Kuska if it's rainforest, Cumbia, Salasa if it's a mix of rainforest and seaside. Each place has a different dance, and children learn it from an early age.
Q4：来到中国后，你发现有什么不同吗？
罗晓清：一是安全，我很难过在我的国家抢劫与盗窃事件经常发生，但在中国没有；二是我们堵车现象非常严重，因为我们国家地铁只有1条线，公交车也比较少，所以基本的交通工具就是汽车；三是食物，我来到中国后还是挺不习惯中国的食物的，因为秘鲁的美食几乎不加油，是纯天然的，在我眼里真是世界级别的好吃。但据我所知，全中国只有两家秘鲁的餐馆，很可惜。四是中国的孩子比较独立，像我就是每天都要给父母打电话，但我感觉好像中国孩子不太擅长表达对家人的思念，好像基本不太给父母打电话。五是在我们国家，如果有人去世了，我们会把它变为“喜丧”，唱歌跳舞喝酒来庆祝逝人上了天堂，但我发现在中国葬礼上亲人都是在哭泣。
Q4: After coming to China, did you find any difference?
Sisrley Kristel suyon loo: First, security, I am sad that robberies and thefts often occur in my country, but not in China; second, our traffic jam is very serious, because our country has only one subway line, and there are relatively few buses, so the basic means of transportation is the car; third, food, I am still not used to Chinese food after coming to China, because Peruvian food is almost non-refueling, it is pure and natural, and in my eyes it is really world-class delicious. But as far as I know, there are only two Peruvian restaurants in the whole of China, which is a pity. Fourth, Chinese children are more independent, like me, I have to call my parents every day, but I feel that Chinese children are not very good at expressing their thoughts about their families, and it seems that they basically do not call their parents. Fifth, in our country, if someone dies, we will turn it into a "happy mourning", singing, dancing and drinking to celebrate the deceased going to heaven, but I found that relatives are crying at Chinese funerals.
Q5：你去过哪些中国的城市？你最喜欢的城市是？
罗晓清：我去过西安、成都、上海、广州、香港和杭州。我最喜欢的是西安，因为有大雁塔还有有很多的地方很好玩，当然这是因为我在西安待的比较久，我很希望接下来的日子里能有更多机会接触杭州，然后爱上杭州这座城市。
Q5: What Chinese cities have you visited? What's your favorite city?
Sisrley Kristel suyon loo: I've been to Xi'an, Chengdu, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Hong Kong and Hangzhou. My favorite is Xi'an, because there is the Big Wild Goose Pagoda and there are a lot of places to play, of course, this is because I have been in Xi'an for a long time, and I hope that I will have more opportunities to contact Hangzhou in the coming days, and then fall in love with the city of Hangzhou.
