为了进一步了解和关心国际留学生在校学习和生活情况、增进对留学生所在的国家文化的认识、培养学生国际视野、促进文化交流和文明沟通，国际学院针对留学生推出了教育开放推广季“跨文化视野”之“和山面对面”系列访谈节目。11月30日下午东方语言文化学院朝鲜语专业的韦覃曦同学对阿兹进行了访谈。

阿兹，来自阿尔及利亚，2024级汉语语言文化专业的学生。

Aziz, from Algeria, a student majoring in Chinese language and culture in the class of 2024.

1.

韦覃曦：其实我非常好奇你是通过什么途径知道我们学校的呢？

阿兹：其实是这样的，我之前和我哥哥一起在土耳其，然后他强烈建议我来中国学习。那时候其实我对中国的了解还不是很多，于是我就花了一些时间去搜索有关中国的信息，包括大学，如何申请学校之类的。后来我联系了中介，他们向我推荐了ZISU 。我自己也查阅了一些和这个学校有关的信息，我认为ZISU很不错，于是我就提交了申请材料，来到了这里。

Wei Qinxi: In fact, I am very curious about how you know our school?

Aziz: Actually, I was in Turkey with my brother, and he strongly suggested that I come to China to study. At that time, I didn't know much about China, so I spent some time searching for information about China, including universities, how to apply for schools and so on. Then I contacted the agency and they recommended ZISU to me. I also looked up some information about this school, and I thought ZISU was very good, so I submitted the application materials and came here.

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韦覃曦：你可以向我们简单介绍一下你的国家阿尔及利亚吗？据我了解它是非洲大陆上面积最大的国家。

阿兹：阿尔及利亚是非洲最大的国家，也是非洲的门户，位于非洲北部。阿尔及利亚北部濒临地中海，东邻利比亚、突尼斯， 东南和南部分别与尼日尔、马里和毛里塔尼亚接壤，西部和摩洛哥相连。阿尔及利亚的天气是地中海气候，四季分明，有着温和的春天和秋天，夏天不会太热，冬天也不会太冷，我认为阿尔及利亚的天气是很完美的。阿尔及利亚还拥有世界上最大的沙漠——撒哈拉沙漠，覆盖了北非的大部分地区，包括摩洛哥、阿尔及利亚和一小部分其他地区。现在这个季节其实很适合去沙漠露营，现在是最好的时候，夏天会很热，冬天会特别冷。

韦覃曦：在沙漠里露营有什么特色的活动吗？

阿兹：可以玩滑沙，骑骆驼。还可以用木材烧火，烹饪食物，给人一种传统的感觉。

韦覃曦：在沙漠里露营感觉会是很神奇的经历，但是去的话会有一点危险吗？

阿兹：不会的，没有危险的地方，人们是不被允许自己一个人去危险的地方的。我和我的朋友去过很多次，是非常美好而且独特的体验。

韦覃曦：阿尔及利亚有什么传统的食物吗？

阿兹：有非常多。比如Tagine，这是一种炖菜，有独特的香气，里面鸡肉，还有胡萝卜等蔬菜。还有一个叫msamen algerian，通常作为早餐食用，可以搭配黄油和果酱一起食用。我们还是椰枣的主产国之一，我们向世界上九十多个国家出口椰枣。

Wei Qinxi: Could you give us a brief introduction of your country? As far as I know, Algeria is the largest country on the African continent.

Aziz: Algeria is the largest country in Africa and the gateway to Africa. It is located in northern Africa. Algeria is bordered by the Mediterranean Sea in the north, Libya and Tunisia in the east, Niger, Mali and Mauritania in the southeast and south respectively, and Morocco in the west. The weather in Algeria is Mediterranean with four distinct seasons, having mild autumn and spring. It's not too hot in summer and not too cold in winter. I think the weather in Algeria is perfect. Algeria also has the world's largest desert, the Sahara, which covers most of North Africa, including Morocco, Algeria and a small number of other regions. Now this season is actually very suitable for camping in the desert, now is the best time. It will be very hot in summer and very cold in winter.

Wei Qinxi: Are there any special activities for camping in the desert?

Aziz: You can play sand skiing and ride camels. In there also can use wood to make fires and cook food, giving people a traditional feeling.

Wei Qinxi: Camping in the desert can be an amazing experience, but is it a little dangerous to go?

Aziz: Not really, there are no dangerous places. People are not allowed to go to dangerous places alone. My friend and I have been there many times and it is a wonderful and unique experience.

Wei Qinxi: Is there any traditional food in Algeria?

Aziz: There are many. Tagine, for example, is a stew with a unique aroma, chicken in it, and vegetables such as carrots. There is also a msamen Algerian, which is usually eaten for breakfast and can be served with butter and jam. We are also one of the leading producers of dates, which we export to more than 90 countries in the world.

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韦覃曦：我了解到阿拉伯语是你们国家官方语言，但是法语也是通用的。阿尔及利亚人都精通两种语言吗？

阿兹：在阿尔及利亚，我们的法语说得很流利。一般来说，我们从小就开始学习法语，这是由于历史原因，这里现在仍然广泛使用法语。即使在随意的交谈中，我们也经常把阿拉伯语和法语的句子混在一起。我七岁上小学时开始学习法语。 因此，在成长过程中说两种语言对我来说很正常。我觉得和朋友说法语很舒服。如果我去巴黎或马赛旅行，我可以很容易地用法语交流。 在像阿尔及尔这样的大城市，人们经常在日常用语中使用法语短语。

韦覃曦：你也很擅长英语对吧，英语是怎么学习的呢？

阿兹：是的，我大概是在中学时期开始学习英语，在我完成学校的学习内容和日程之后，我会花一个半小时学习英语，包括语法，句子这些，我会一直练习。因为我确信在未来我会需要在很多地方使用英语。我认为在这个时代其实英文和中文都是十分重要的。

韦覃曦：没错，英语是十分重要的。在中国我们也是从小学二，三年级就要开始学习英文，每个学期末学期中，也都有英文考试。那在阿尔及利亚，也是每个人都需要学习英语吗？

阿兹：这取决于个人选择。比如说，如果你不想出国的话，不学习英语也是没问题的。但是对我来说，我很小开始就想去国外学习，所以我一直坚持学习英语。

王怡雯：那你为什么想学习中文呢？

阿兹：这是个好问题哈哈哈，我想学习中文是因为这是我实现梦想的第一步。如果不学习中文的话，我可能会在未来受到一些局限。现在其实说实话，中国是世界的趋势，中国有着很重要的地位。举个例子，在阿尔及利亚的超市，商店很多东西都是中国制造，你可以在任何地方看到。在这个时代，中国在经济实力等方面都是很强大的。所以，我决定来中国学习和工作。

Wei Qinxi: I understand that Arabic is the official language of your country, but French is also widely used. Are Algerians bilingual?

Aziz: In Algeria, we speak French fluently. Generally speaking, we have been learning French since childhood, which is still widely used here for historical reasons. Even in casual conversation, we often mix up Arabic and French sentences. I started learning French at the age of seven when I was in primary school. So, it was normal for me to speak two languages while growing up. I feel comfortable speaking French with my friends. If I travel to Paris or Marseille, I can easily communicate in French. In large cities like Algiers, French phrases are often used in everyday speech.

Wei Qinxi: You are also good at English right? How do you learn English?

Aziz: Yeah, I probably started learning English when I was in middle school. After I finish the content and schedule of the school., I would spend an hour and a half learning English, including grammar, sentences and so on. I would practice all the time. Because I am sure that I will need to use English in many places in the future. I think both English and Chinese are very important in this day and age.

Wei Qinxi: Yes, English is very important. In China, we also need to start learning English from the second and third grades of primary school. At the end of each semester, there is also an English exam. Does everyone need to learn English in Algeria?

Aziz: It's a matter of personal choice. For example, if you don't want to go abroad, it's okay not to learn English. But for me, I wanted to study abroad since I was very young, so I always insisted on learning English.

Wang Yiwen: Then why do you want to learn Chinese?

Aziz: That's a good question. I want to learn Chinese because it's the first step to realize my dream. If I don't learn Chinese, I may be limited in the future. Now, to be honest, China is the trend of the world, and China has a very important position. For example, in Algeria, in the supermarket, a lot of things are made in China, and you can see them everywhere. In this time, China is very strong in economic strength and other aspects. So I decided to come to China to study and work.

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韦覃曦：阿尔及利亚的教育系统是什么样的？我看过一些材料，在阿尔及利亚，从小学到大学，学费完全免费，大学生享受伙食补贴和奖学金，是这样的吗？

阿兹：是的，从小学到高中学费都是免费的。其实大学学费也是免费的，所以我们的教育其实都是免费的。但是问题是当你得到一些免费的东西，有时候这些东西的质量是不会那么好的。我们也有私立学校，他们有着很好的教育水平和设施。公立免费的学校学费是免费的，这是没问题的，但是可能教学质量没有那么好。这也是我为什么决定，不在阿尔及利亚上大学。有一些人也认为在本地上大学没有那么有必要，所以在高中毕业之后离开阿尔及利亚去国外学习，比如欧洲，中国，美国也是很好的选择。在阿尔及利亚拿到了硕士或者博士学位，其实你也很难找到工作。

韦覃曦：那完成本科到博士学位需要多少年呢？

阿兹：本科学位需要两年时间，硕士学位最长是四年，博士学位大概需要七年。

韦覃曦：那如果在国外取得了硕士或者博士学位再回到阿尔及利亚的话会找到很好的工作吗？

阿兹：这其实是个不错的主意，很多人确实也是这样做的，在国外学习，拿到学位后同时在国外工作，得到了丰厚的薪水。但是如果你决定完成学业之后回到阿尔及利亚，可能情况会不太一样。

Wei Qinxi: What is the education system like in Algeria? I have read some materials. In Algeria, from primary school to university, tuition fees are completely free, and university students enjoy food subsidies and scholarships. Is that right?

Aziz: Yes, tuition is free from elementary school to high school. In fact, university tuition is also free, so our education is actually free. But the problem is that when you get something for free, sometimes the quality of the thing is not so good. We also have private schools, which have very good educational standards and facilities. The tuition of public free schools is free, it is okay, but the quality of teaching may not be so good. That's why I decided not to go to university in Algeria. Some people also think that it is not necessary to go to university locally, so it is also a good choice to leave Algeria to study abroad after graduation from high school, such as Europe, China and the United States. If you get a master's degree or a doctor's degree in Algeria, it's hard for you to find a job.

Wei Qinxi: How many years does it take to complete the undergraduate degree to the doctoral degree?

Aziz: An undergraduate degree takes two years, a master's degree takes up to four years, and a doctoral degree takes about seven years.

Wei Qinxi: Will you find a good job if you get a master's degree or a doctor's degree abroad and then return to Algeria?

Aziz: It's actually a good idea, and a lot of people do that. Study abroad and get a degree ,and work abroad at the same time, you can get a good salary. But if you decide to return to Algeria after completing your studies, the situation may be different.

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韦覃曦：那阿尔及利亚人气最高的职业选择是哪些呢？

阿兹：是经商。尤其是在我的家乡盖尔达耶市，我们在很小的年纪就开始从商。我的话，在我九岁，十岁的时候，就开始跟我爸爸一起工作，他会教我一些经商技巧，比如怎么和人良好的沟通，向人们展示商品等，这些技能我们在学校里是学不到的。在我的家乡有几个显赫的家族，他们以财富和影响力而闻名。其中一个家族甚至拥有私人医院和其他重要资产。他们多年来积累了大量资源，这使他们能够开展甚至国家也无法单独运行的项目，这些家族能做到这些都是从经商开始的。在我们很小的时候 商业的思维一直伴随着我们的成长过程。通常我们的学年在十月开始，七月结束，然后有三个月的假期。在此期间，我和我的朋友会选择工作而不是休假，工作是很重要的。 比如在来中国之前，我在一家在线商务公司远程工作了将近一年。所以对我们来说没有很多时间休息，学习的时间就学习，不学习的时间就去工作。

韦覃曦：会觉得这样一直连轴转的生活很疲惫吗？

阿兹：不会的，我认为在19岁到25岁之间的这个年纪，努力工作并为自己设定明确的目标是至关重要的，这样在30岁之后，我们才能更从容地休息。

Wei Qinxi : What are the most popular career choices in Algeria?

Aziz: It's business. Especially in my home city of Ghardaia , we started in business at a very young age. In my case, I started working with my dad when I was nine and ten years old, and he taught me business skills like how to communicate well with people and how to present products to people that we couldn't learn in school. There are several prominent families in my hometown who are known for their wealth and influence. One family even owns private hospitals and other important assets. They have accumulated a lot of resources over the years, which enables them to carry out projects that even the state can not run alone, and these families can do this from the beginning of business. When we are very young, business thinking has been accompanied by our growth process. Usually our school year starts in October and ends in July, and then we have three months off. During the holiday, my friend and I will choose to work instead of taking a vacation. Work is very important. For example, before I came to China, I worked remotely for an online business company for almost a year. So for us, we don't have much time to rest. When we study, we study. When we don't study, we work.

Wei Qinxi: Do you feel tired of such a continuous life?

Aziz: No, I think it's vital to work hard and set clear goals for ourselves at this age between 19 and 25, so that after 30 we can rest more leisurely.

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韦覃曦：我听说你前不久还因为工作去了绍兴，你在那边有什么收获吗？

阿兹：当然！这对我来说是一次很好的经历，因为我有机会与当地人一起练习我的汉语技能学习了和商业有关的表达，这对我未来的事业很有帮助。我不想只局限地学习一些学术的中文，比如你好，早上好那些，我更希望有机会学习一些和商业有关的表达，例如，了解如何协商价格，最小订货量是多少，颜色偏好和设计规格等相关的表达。

Wei Qinxi: I heard that you went to Shaoxing for work a couple of days ago. Did you have any gains there?

Aziz: Of course! It was a good experience for me because I had a chance to practice my Chinese skills with the local people and learn some expressions related to business, which will be very helpful for my future career. I don't want to be limited to academic Chinese, like hello, good morning, but I would like to have the opportunity to learn some business-related expressions, such as how to negotiate prices, what is the minimum order quantity, color preferences and design specifications.

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韦覃曦：来中国是你自己的决定吗，还是父母建议的呢？

阿兹：是我自己的决定，我家人也都非常支持我。对我来说来中国是正确的选择，在中国的外国人数量在不断上涨。在阿尔及利亚，两年前，很多人可能都不太了解中国，也没有很多人学习中文。但是现在，我和我的朋友说起中国，很多都对中国很感兴趣，他们中的很多也已经申请了中国的学校，在其他城市比如武汉，广州，青岛。以前在阿尔及利亚，高中毕业之后去欧洲，美国或者是加拿大学习是很常见，但是现在中国成了最热门的选择。

Wei Qinxi: Was it your own decision to come to China, or was it suggested by your parents?

Aziz: It was my decision and my family was very supportive. For me, China is the right choice. The number of foreigners in China is increasing. In Algeria, two years ago, many people may not know much about China, and not many people learn Chinese. But now, when I talk about China with my friends, many of them are very interested in China, and many of them have applied to Chinese schools in other cities such as Wuhan, Guangzhou and Qingdao. In Algeria, it used to be common to go to Europe, the United States or Canada to study after graduating from high school, but now China has become the most popular choice.

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韦覃曦：来到中国生活和学习后，你最大的感受是什么？你觉得和你之前生活过的国家有什么不同吗？

阿兹：对我来说，中文很难，食物也还在适应中，我挺喜欢北京烤鸭的。还有就是我遇到的每一个中国人都非常的友善。我在中国注意到的更多的事情是人们特别乐于助人。无论何时你需要帮助，无论是找东西还是导航，附近总有人随时准备伸出援手。这种帮助他人和与他人交流的意愿是我在其他国家从未遇到过的。这是在中国生活的一个非常吸引人的方面。

Wei Qinxi: What is your biggest feeling after coming to China to live and study? Do you think it's different from the country you've lived in before?

Aziz: For me, Chinese is very difficult and the food is still getting used to. I like Beijing Duck. Also, every Chinese person I met was very friendly. What I've noticed more in China is that people are particularly helpful. Whenever you need help, whether it's finding something or navigating, there's always someone nearby ready to lend a hand. This willingness to help and communicate with others is something I have never encountered in other countries. This is a very attractive aspect of living in China.

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韦覃曦：你之前会对一个人来中国学习而感到担心吗？

阿兹：不，我并不会。

韦覃曦：你是一个很独立而且勇敢的人。对其他想出国学习但是有顾虑的年轻人，你可以给他们一些建议吗？

阿兹：首先我想说的是要敢于去冒险。走出你的舒适区，这就是你成长的方式。如果你一直停留在自己的舒适区内，你就不会进步。在你年纪更大的时候你可能会因此遭到限制，对于那些有家庭责任和有孩子的人来说尤其如此，他们承受不起停滞不前，就需要一直工作，这时候再想走出自己的舒适区就会很困难了。在我们的文化中，从很小的时候起，孩子们就被教导要有责任感。我父亲不只是给我钱买东西。在我很小的时候，他就鼓励我去工作，自己挣钱。这并不是因为他负担不起——他想让我尽早认识到努力工作和承担责任的价值。也有很多人可能不同意这种方法，但我相信它把我塑造成了一个更有能力、更有韧性的人。

王怡雯：我也认为这是很好的，因为如果自己经济独立的话，你想买什么的时候不需要犹豫或者顾虑很多，这也意味着父母不会影响你做很多决定。你越早实现经济独立，你就越有自由去探索不同的道路和机会。如果你只依靠父母的钱，你可能会觉得没有工作或尝试新事物的需要或动力，因为经济支持很容易得到。

阿兹：还有就是，根据我自己的经历，我认为有机会与年长者或某个领域的资深人士相处和交谈会让人收获颇丰。例如，如果我有空闲时间，我会选择与那些比我年长或更优秀的人见面。我相信这会对我有很大的启发，因为他们丰富的经验能教会我很多东西。他们不仅能提供宝贵的建议和深刻的见解，还总是充满智慧，能够带来许多有意义的话题。和他们相处并向他们学习，你会变得越来越好。

Wei Qinxi: Were you worried about coming to China to study alone?

Aziz: No, I don't.

Wei Qinxi: You are a very independent and brave person. For other young people who want to study abroad but have concerns, can you give them some advice?

Aziz: The first thing I want to say is to dare to take risks. Get out of your comfort zone. That's how you grow up. If you stay within your comfort zone, you won't improve. When you're older, you may be limited. This is especially true for those with family responsibilities and children. They can't afford to stagnate and need to work all the time. It's hard to get out of your comfort zone then. In our culture, from an early age, children are taught to be responsible. My father didn't just give me money to buy things. When I was very young, he really encouraged me to work and earn my own money. It wasn't because he couldn't afford it, but he wanted me to see the value of hard work and responsibility early on. There are also many people who may not agree with this approach, but I believe it has shaped me into a more capable and resilient person.

Wang Yiwen: I also think this is very good, because if you are financially independent, you don't need to hesitate or worry a lot when you want to buy something, which also means that your parents won't influence you to make many decisions. The sooner you achieve financial independence, the more freedom you have to explore different paths and opportunities. If you only rely on your parents' money, you may not feel the necessity or motivation to work or try new things because financial support is easy to come by.

Aziz: Also, based on my own experience, I think it's rewarding to have the opportunity to spend time and talk with older people or people who are senior in a certain field. For example, if I have free time, I will choose to meet with those who are older or better than me. I believe this will be a great inspiration for me, because their rich experience can teach me a lot. Not only they could provide valuable advice and insights, but they are always full of wisdom and can bring many meaningful topics. Get along with them and learn from them, and you will become better and better.